getting all these people into the cities is going to take massive amounts of steel and iron ore. >> they're eating more food, becoming more prosperous, eating more calories. >> the most recent gdp report was in line with target, 7.4%, i believe, but you saw a boost in consumption. the chinese are really managing their economy very well. >> 7.4% compared to 1.3 in the united states, just to give you a perspective. the china market is not doing we vl at all. you think to think about investing money in china in stocks. >> in our country the stock market is a barometer more or less for the economy. in china, not really at all. i mean, the solar industry, for example, they'll support their solar companies even though they may be bankrupt. they don't care that they're bankrupt as long as they learn how to manufacture as cheap as possible. if you're investing in china, buy commodities. buy the etfs that are underlined by particular commodities like jvc for copper, gld for gold, et cetera. i think that's the best way to go. >> steven, good to see you. steven lieb joining us. >>> she was the woman r